Sigh....

Sep. 17th, 2009 05:10 pm
lenora_rose: (Gryphon)
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So:

If theoretically you saw two respectable, theoretically reasonable, well-educated professionals disagree online, whose side would you feel *automatically* inclined to take?

One who:
- Sticks to her guns in spite of being consistently and regularly tarred as a SH**-stirrer and accused of trolling for fun.
- Attempts to use logic first to refute arguments against her
- Snarks and doesn't hide her anger or frustration, but doesn't forget to stick to attacking the problem.
- Leaves her words up for all to see. If she feels the need to change or edit or otherwise follow-up, does so by addendum or additional post.
- Leaves up all but the most blatantly offensive, violent or threatening responses.
- Responds directly or by general commentary to more people than she doesn't.
- Lets people use consistent pseudonyms such as lj names.

One who:
- Regularly removes, edits and deletes posts if the response isn't to her liking. Notes she has removed or edited.
- Outs peoples' real names then doesn't apologize.
- Claims any pseudonym is there to conceal trolling and illegal harrassment, and everyone should have the guts to use their real name.
- Forces every comment through moderation so strong disagreement isn't visible
- Attempts to use logic to refute those she does allow through.
- Responds pretty consistently to all those whose arguments she does allow through.

It happens that I agree more often with person #1. However, the substance isn't the issue here. If person #1 was a homophobic mysogynist ****, and person #2 were in agreement with me on most of our politics... I'd still be damned uncomfortable in that room with her. I'm just trying to figure out how someone of that professional calibre business-wise half imagines this is appropriate behaviour. Even knowing the roots of the anti-pseudonym attitude.

Date: 2009-09-17 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bow-bitch.livejournal.com
Full disclosure is vital here. Yes, even the snarky not pretty posts. I find that anyone who allows themselves to show all their humanity, even the nasty bits is the more credible individual.

Number #1, regardless of what their status on the issue was, is the more credible individual simply b/c they are keeping an open book on all discussions. Agree with them or not, they are behaving in the most credible fashion.

Date: 2009-09-23 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenora-rose.livejournal.com
I did try to include the ways she showed actual honesty, but yes, you have it exactly.

Date: 2009-09-18 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sueo2.livejournal.com
Too many people forget that part of the message is the delivery. You don't write love "sonnets" in blood on the pavement outside your "beloved's" door. Hurtful lies are often cloaked in "kindness and wisdom."

Delivery means something and while content is paramount, if you preach life and perform death, well, there's the message.

Date: 2009-09-23 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenora-rose.livejournal.com
Even person # 2 isn't wholly lacking in positive behaviour (I tried to include that), but I thought the negatives did vastly outweigh her message.

It's mostly just trying to separate delivery from content in case I was missing something. And trying to include the positives in case my prejudice, too, was making me miss something.

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